S2. E34. Rest is success (feat. Psalm 127)
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Abbie: [00:00:00] Nothing beats a Jetta two holiday, y'all. I am so excited for today's episode. I have my colleague and dear friend Jetta Barb, joining the podcast. She is a gut health practitioner and certified nutritionist, soon to be licensed nutrition therapy practitioner as well, and from being abandoned at birth to chronic illness since she was little, she's been on a journey to find what helps her liver, her gut, her mental health, and how to really reach peak wellness. Amidst so many of these barriers physically, she's a mom of two. She has her own online private practice, and she has served over 300 families with chronic symptoms and diagnoses of all various kinds.
By finding the root cause, through faith-based mentoring HTMA labs and a food first healing approach. We love a food first approach. As a dietician, I'm always food first, and I found Jetta on Instagram when I first started posting faith-based content and she is [00:01:00] absolutely wonderful. I love the things that she posts, and she does have that chronic illness focus with her content.
So if you struggle with a chronic illness and want to do things with more of a holistic approach and also a faith-based approach, she would be a really great mentor and coach for you. I really, really stand behind the things. That she says. And I'm really excited to debunk a lot of these wellness trends that we frequently see and that the Bible warns us about.
So this episode is based on an Instagram post that she did, and I'm like, wait, we gotta have you come on the podcast and talk about this because this is just so good. She talks about how the Bible warns us about idolatry of the body. False profits and empty promises. It warns us against pride and self-sufficiency, sorcery or pharmacia anxiety about [00:02:00] tomorrow, chasing mysticism without truth, gluttony of knowledge, and neglecting true rest.
So those are the eight things that we're gonna be talking about today and how those relate to different. Wellness trends
so I hope that. You all find this episode helpful. Jetta is such a delight and I will pray us in. Father God, thank you so much for this day. Lord, thank you for this divine appointment and divine connection bringing Jetta and I together. Lord, we are just so grateful to open your word and to speak truth, and to bring biblical truth to the health industry.
I pray that this renews the mind of every single listener. I pray that this leads people to be reconciled back to you and I pray that. This helps people rely and depend more on you, Jesus, and less on ourselves, and help us to relinquish [00:03:00] control, relinquish idolatry, and relinquish this need to be dependent on so many health hacks and supplement.
And rely more on real food, Lord, and just be spirit led in the other extra things that you invite us into. So, Lord, thank you Holy Spirit for covering this conversation. I pray that, , people on the other end , have ears to hear, and they hear our heart in this Lord. And in Jesus name we pray.
Amen.
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Abbie: Hello? Hello? Hey, jta. How's it going?
Hello, my dear. I'm doing so good. How are you? It's been a while. I know it has been a bit, but thank you so much for coming on the show today. I thank you for having me. I'm very excited for this episode. Y'all don't even understand like what the Lord has revealed to Jetta and he has just poured out so much divine wisdom and revelation in you and the way that you bring these scriptures to life for health and wellness and nutrition and chronic illness and healing it, it is amazing. So. , so thank you.
Geta: You, you are a big inspiration. I always am saying this, I'm always like sharing yourself too. Like you are a big inspiration, so keep doing what you're doing because I know things sometimes get hard and I know sometimes social media just be doing all sorts of things, but you keep going because you're inspiring so many people.
So I'm happy to be here.
Abbie: Thank you so much. I appreciate you saying that. Yay. Well, this episode was [00:05:00] inspired, I sprinted to your dms after I saw your post about, , the eight things that are trending right now in the wellness space. That the Bible warns us about.
So I want us to go through those eight things because I think people need to hear this and some of the things we've talked about on the show before, but some of them we have it. So I'm like, okay, y'all, this is gonna be new and I can't wait for y'all to hear Jenna's perspective., Yay. So thank you so much for your posts and being willing to come on to talk about these things.
Geta: Yeah, let's do like a little rewind a little bit. So I've been in my chronic illness journey literally since I've been born. I was born and then abandoned at a few days old, and then left in the hospital and then in an orphanage, and then adopted when I was like almost four years old.
And there was so much trauma and the difference between, my first four years of life and then. Coming to America, it was just a wild thing, so I was , born in Romania and actually recently moved back to Romania, which is a whole nother story within itself.
But . I came to America and it was the first time that I had ever seen a pediatrician. The first time I ever [00:06:00] got tested for anything, at around 18, , I had done what's called a CCK test and a or a HA scan. And I highly, highly recommend to talk to your GI or your PCP about getting that. If you have any sort of like. Upper right abdominal pain. If you're having a lot of cystic acne all over, I had 'em on my chin,, on my chest, on my back, on my knees, and on my arms.
It was everywhere. I had severe insomnia. I was dealing with severe depression. , There was so many things. It was just, there wasn't just like a diagnosis there. Till this day, I technically don't even have a diagnosis, but there's just like so many. Symptoms.
And one of the things that within my soul. I felt from the get go, I don't want to go the western medicine full on supplements and pills, especially after I got the CCK scan, the HEDA scan. That was another test that revealed that my, my liver function was at 53% at that [00:07:00] time. Oh my goodness.
And at that time I got told I was 18 going on 19. And at that time they were like, you'd be lucky if you're not on dialysis by 30. And , infertility is gonna be high.
And the following sentence after that, they're like, okay, here's what's going on. Here's the things you know that you could have happening. And here are the pills and supplements we recommend. And I was like, I always call it my Eminem moment, you know, where like Eminem is on stage and he's like scared and he's like, you know, like, mom spaghetti, you know, that kind of thing.
I was like, I don't even know what to say, and I looked at my mom and I was like, no. No, not gonna do that. And so that was the beginning of food first, right? But. There are so many people that maybe it's harder for them to say no.
, Like, well, you know what, I'll trust the doctor, or I'll trust, and I know that I know doctors mean well. They're supposed to mean well. That's in their [00:08:00] oath, and I never ever wanna criticize another professional or a doctor or anything. But the, in the, in the. Literally what we're talking about that the Bible warns us about these things.
You know, Jesus flip tables. Sometimes we're here to flip tables, you know? And so, been that route, you know that my entire life. Food first. , I, studied at Wayne State University in Detroit. That's where I lived up until like five months ago. I lived in Michigan, I studied gut and neuro from womb to death development.
So that's what I studied. And then I went on to do occupational therapy for a pediatrician. Didn't like it. Literally dropped out and I was like, this is not it. I don't like the, the bureaucracy of it really, and so then got married, had two kids, uh, decided to renovate a home, sell it, and move to Romania.
And here we are. And so now I have my own practice and I've been doing this for four years now.
In Galatians five [00:09:00] 20 Paul is writing and warning us literally about, , witchcraft, hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions and, factions.
And Pharmacia is actually warned as witchcraft. sorcery.
What is sorcery. What is that
Abbie: I just think of like, what's that Halloween movie with the three witches?
With the, one of them is with the red hair. I cauldron like, he, he, that's what I think of as sorcery, but what is that, what is that movie called? Witch witchcraft. Right? What is that? H Is that Halloween town? No, it's. I forget somebody. Me. Okay. Listeners, please tell us what it's, I don't really watch any of those movies, Me neither.
Me neither. Oh yeah. But yes,
Geta: sorcery. Sorcery is . Witchcraft, right? And witchcraft is the opposite of trusting your body, trusting God's creation, trusting your body, which is also God's creation, right?
In 2025, especially. I feel like we really need to understand that supplements also [00:10:00] are part of Pharmacia. where the reliance on potions and just the overuse of powder tinctures , supplements instead of food that got already made to nourish us,
This is where that post came about, because everybody knows that pharmacy Pharmacia, the visual, when we think pharmacy, everybody thinks pharmacy, pills. Vaccines, all that kind of western media vision.
But in 2025. I don't think we've yet made the connection that Pharmacia is also supplements because supplements are a not regulated. Other professionals are telling people, Hey, take these supplement stacks, 500, 600, $800 supplement stacks.
And I'm not antis supplement, I'm just anti reliant.
And so what happens is that we rely on these supplements we rely on, essentially popping a pill, because especially these supplements lately, everything is, in a gel form or in a pill form,
Abbie: mm-hmm. Yes. [00:11:00] And I do believe that supplements should supplement and be that, what can we do through food? Because there's so much, there's so many healing properties in food, and that's what God provided for us.
And it's not that he won't use a supplement as a tool, and it's not that that's not also provision, but I do think that we have to focus on food first and then. Supplement after if needed. And I do think that you're right, that there is an over-reliance on supplements. Oh, let me just take this greens powder, because it's more convenient than actually getting vegetables in.
And we're taking the easy way out. And the body doesn't always respond in the same way to that as it in a supplement, as it would through food. And they've even done studies on that, that the body has more, just better absorption and there's one study that I'm thinking about in particular where they had people on like, oh, whole food diet.
You know, they were,, not eating a lot of ultra processed foods for the sake of the study and really just getting fruits Yes. Vegetables, you know, whole, [00:12:00] whole fresh foods. And they matched that same nutritional profile with supplements. So they had a group mm-hmm. In the study that was taking all pills.
And they had the other group that was eating the whole fresh foods, and they looked at the mortality rate. Of those two groups and the people that were just taking the pills had, higher mortality rates and the people that were eating the whole fresh foods were living longer.
So there is something to be said about eating whole fresh foods and also eating them in combination with each other. I think the vitamins and minerals. The macronutrients, they are all interacting together in a way that helps with absorption in the body. Absolutely. Whereas if you just take vitamin E in isolation and not with the other things that it normally interacts with to help with absorption, it's not gonna be the same.
Geta: Vitamin E is a fat soluble vitamin. Mm-hmm. The A fat soluble vitamins. Let's take that example that you gave for vitamin E. Well, a fat soluble vitamin is actually digestion in the small intestine. [00:13:00] If you have Crohn's, if you have sibo, if you have uc, if you have any of like those chronic illnesses. That epithelial layer of your gut lining is what we call gut dysbiosis, and that lining is now not this nice, you know, like mesh together. There's a little bit of holes
and so you're taking vitamin E. But you're not going to absorb, maybe you'll absorb 50% of that vitamin E. So you're taking that supplement that has. 100, 200, 300, 400 milligrams of or units,
of vitamin E and you're like, oh my gosh, yes, I'm taking my vitamin E. And your body's like, Hmm, I don't even have the tools to actually properly. Digest. Right, especially that
Abbie: soluble vitamin that if you're not even consuming enough fat, it's not going to be absorbed. Isn't
Geta: that going to be
Abbie: absorbed?
Geta: Right. In America specifically the history of the food and the food first stopped once the industrial Revolution happened the [00:14:00] Industrial Revolution changed so much for food factories in general nutrition,
. And you look back and there was zero reported chronic illnesses. Yes. People died from bug bites. Yes. People died from viruses. Yes. But people didn't have chronic illness.
Abbie: Okay. Wow. And
Geta: yeah, and the disconnect is.
These four things slash five, the first one is that , we are not respecting the sunrise with the sunset in the circadian rhythm. And if we respect God's creation, sunrise and sun down, even if it's cloudy, it's still a difference because it's natural light that's going to help your gut microbe. It's going to help your mental health, it's going to help your skin health, it's going to help your PMs symptoms. It's going to have, have so much.
So that's number one. Number two, in the industrial revolution. The respecting and the, and the [00:15:00] taking action at all, the hunger and body cues was forced out. Because you were on the line and I just talked about it , with another client of mine. She's a mom of two, and there's a lot of things happening in her life she forgets to go pee. I'm like, yeah, that is ignoring a body cue. For Makia would tell us as an example.
We have potassium pills, we have calcium pills, we have water pills. We have literally all those things for us to either go pee more or go pee less. . And we think about that and we're like, yes, time and place. Obviously time and place. Yes, 100%. But if we understood okay, I have to go pee. Maybe I should just go pee. And it's wild because it's like, of course Jada. Of course. We're gonna go pee. No because my clients tell me this, that they're like, no, I [00:16:00] don't like, I know I have to go pee. Or I know I have to go to the bathroom, but sometimes I don't.
I know I'm hungry, but sometimes I don't eat or sometimes I don't even know if I'm hungry. I just eat. 'cause the clock says is lunchtime. Part of that
Abbie: is that we're so. Busy and we're over programmed, overstimulated. We're so focused on external things going on. Go, go, go. Hustle, hustle, hustle. Try. Especially like your client is a busy mom, so she's trying to take care of her kids at the cost of herself.
I do see that frequently with the moms that I work with as well, that they are more likely to be ignoring, suppressing, forgetting, not even attuned to their body's cues.
And I think it just comes from them being so busy and overstimulated, constantly interrupted, and not having those moments at peace. And I'm, I'm not sure always how to, how to help them create more of that, but I just, they can't do it in their own strength. I truly believe that it's something that the Lord has to help with, I was
Geta: just gonna say, uh, so many times we cannot do it [00:17:00] alone.
So many things we cannot do alone. Do you remember Abby where Martha, was it Martha that was sitting down and was listening to Jesus no.
Abbie: Mary was sitting down and Martha was preparing.
There we go.
Geta: Yes. Yes. And the other one was doing all the things right. And I felt that because it's like oh my God, you should be doing this. You should be doing that. La la la la. And it, it's those kinds of incidents and those kinds of scriptures that, I know this is real.
The, the, the sorcery, the the warfare of being busy is very real. And to me, ever since I read that. In my mind it's repeated often. 'cause I have two littles, right? It's repeated and hopefully this will help you and your clients and anybody listening.
But if it takes time away from Jesus, if it takes time away, if you need to rush, if you need to be doing those things to get to the thing [00:18:00] that you're doing that's not from Jesus.
Abbie: Yeah. Or something's out of order.
Geta: Something's out of order.
Yeah. Okay. So that's the second thing. The third thing the third disconnect is that lunch used to be the biggest the biggest meal of the day.
And so many people are actually skipping breakfast and lunch, or they're only having a little bit of breakfast and then having like a cheese stick with a LaCroix. And it's like, I love you. I love you, I love it. You are like. Ambitious. You wanna get through the day, you're focused. I love that.
Take care of your body, right?
Food first. See where food first comes into play. Yeah. Because it's like, yeah, no, it totally makes sense. Like logically speaking, it only takes you two seconds to pour a powder in a little bit of water, shake it up and drink it and call that lunch. I get it. I get it. But again, is that taking away from , trusting your body,
Abbie: mm-hmm. Yes. And I see meals as a time of [00:19:00] consecration with the Lord. Like if you are so busy and you have a lot of things on your to-do list and a lot of deadlines and things that you need to accomplish, you need that time with the Lord so that you have that supernatural covering afterward where you have his , divine focus and efficiency and productivity.
And the way that God intentionally designed our bodies is to need food about every three to four hours for 20 minutes. It takes 20 minutes for our body to feel fullness cues. So that's how he intentionally designed our bodies. And that's not a burden and it's not something to resent or be frustrated by.
It's really something to embrace and I think that will make us on the back end. Yes. Better. Like we will be physically fueled so that we can go after whatever we have the next part of our day, but also we will have that supernatural covering and there really is something to consecrating that mealtime to the Lord and then going back after it.
Geta: Absolutely. Absolutely. I actually wanna bring up one of my other reels that I recently [00:20:00] made yeah. Was the World War II concentration of cap survivors. Is that many of them survive because they chewed their food to applesauce, consistency versus the other ones that just kind of inhaled their food.
Abbie: Wow. So
Geta: what does that tell us? That tells us that literally God made our teeth, our amylase enzymes, which is the enzyme that is produced when you chew, which is why chewing helped and why they survived. So from there, now we're talking literally the difference between life and death, quite literally.
We're over here like, no, we're gonna take a powder and we're gonna do this, and you know, we're gonna take that supplement and that supplement. Just so many examples on what supplements actually do take away from you.
And again, that that's the whole purpose. Just kind of wanna. Make sure that we are reminded of this is that the whole purpose is that Pharmacia. We all know Pharmacia is sorcery. If you look up what Pharmacia? Like F-A-R-M-A-K-I-A. [00:21:00] Did I spell that right? Anyways, I spell that in my head, but if you look that up, but if you look that up, it literally is witchcraft sorcery.
Abbie: That is wild. I. Did not know that, that those were a lot of the same things. And but I appreciate you saying that. It's not that we're against all supplements, but we need to discern because sometimes we actually do, like, you might be low in iron, you might be low in, I think most women need to be supplementing vitamin D.
There are times where you need vitamin C and zinc and fish oil and plant stanols and steriles with for high cholesterol. Like there's things that you may need to supplement it's important to pray on all of those things and ask, Lord, Lord, is this a tool that you want to use with me?
Is this something that you're inviting me into?
Geta: Yeah. Yeah. 100%.
Abbie: I do wanna dive into some of the other ones. Yes. The eight in your post. Um, so if you wouldn't mind just kind of running through some of those and how that came up.
Geta: Yes. Okay, so we got adultery of the [00:22:00] body in Romans 1 25, worshiping, creation instead of the creator.
, The wellness trend that's happening right now is obsessing over perfect bodies, strict diets, biohacking, healing becomes an idol instead of. Vessel. The second one is about, false profits and empty promises. In Matthew seven 15, he's talking about wolves in sheep's clothing. There's a big.
Big, shift here that we're seeing in, wellness influencers and things like that where the gurus, quote unquote,, are selling detox kits, IV drips, one size fits all supplements with promises that they really cannot deliver because you cannot. So I, again, it's, it's the, the wolves and sheep clothing to that part is not the supplements and the IV drift, but it's the promise that these things will do X, Y, Z when really they're not.
Yeah, there's one
Abbie: girl that I just blocked on TikTok. Yeah, because think it was just ad after ad of her [00:23:00] using that like mellow drink. I don't know if that comes up for you on your for you page, but it's just like a magnesium drink, like it's literally just magnesium. Like I looked at it and she's like that this is how I lost 20 pounds.
I drank this mellow drink. Then the, , next week I'm seeing her with the GLP one patches that TikTok shop is always promoting and I'm just like. And I even looked in the comments and people were like, wait, didn't you lose the weight from the other thing? You were from
Geta: the other one? Yeah.
Abbie: Yeah.
Right. So I'm like, she like that is totally a wolf in sheep's clothing because this person is just trying to make a dollar and I see her lives. Before I blocked her, I was getting so much of her content. I'm like, literally, Lord, why? Because this is not what I'm interested in at all. But I would see her lives come up and she would be talking about how much money she made.
Through TikTok and teaching people how to use TikTok shop and how to sell on TikTok shop. And I'm like, this woman is just trying to make a dollar, she does not give a rip about your health. Mm-hmm. About the, dangerous effects of this supplement. She's probably not even taking it. She's probably putting [00:24:00] the GLP one patch on for the video and then immediately taking it off.
Yeah. And she was probably already in a smaller body to begin with and didn't even lose a bunch of weight. Like, come on, be so for real, like I. Anyway. Sorry I get hot about that .
Geta: I say the same though. Be for
Abbie: real. Yeah. Like don't believe everything you see on social media and I just know from, and you know this from making your content too, like if I were today to do an, you know what I eat in a day video, you would have no idea if that's everything I actually ate in that day.
I could be taking content from what I filmed yesterday, a month ago. You just know like everything is, we need to use discernment, is what I'm trying
Geta: to discernment. That's, that, that's the main key word here in today's episode. Discernment, and asking Jesus all the time.
The third one is . Pride and self-sufficiency and proverbs 1618, pride comes before destruction. Yes. And the wellness trend of that is thinking if you just nail the macros, , red light therapy, et cetera, you can [00:25:00] outwit your body and no room for simply existing.
It's not that if you do the red light therapy that it's, you are going against God's will or anything like that.
But it's understanding how to support it, when to support it. So discernment, when we talk about pride.
I think there's a difference between pride and boundaries. I think there's a difference between pride and being rude. You know what I mean? And I think you can respect your circadian rhythm. I think you can do those things with boundaries and with self-respect and respect for others, the main aspect of that was don't get prideful of that. And when you see people on social media and when you see wellness influencers, I lost weight and da, da da.
Like, pride comes before destruction. So humble yourself.
Abbie: Yeah. Jesus. He just, I think when we study his rhythms, we [00:26:00] see that he frequently went to care for himself. He frequently went to be alone. To pray with God. Yes. And he knew that he needed it. He was kind, but direct about it. Now , I need to be with my father.
I need to go. Yes. It's okay to set boundaries out of self-respect and especially if these are things that the Lord put on your heart to start prioritizing.
Yes. Like to go to bed earlier and, you know, make a cup of tea and to have your red light mask and not be on your phone scrolling. I have so many clients that they have a red light mask and they'll listen to the One Minute Pause app, which is my favorite scripture meditation app, and they'll listen to that or they'll listen to.
Worship music and that's their time with the Lord. And they're not scrolling on their phone, so you don't need the red light therapy to do that. They just, you don't need it. Yeah. Pair paired those things together. Um, bingo. But I think that whatever rhythms or routines the Lord is putting on your heart, or, working out or meal prep, whatever he's putting on your heart, you [00:27:00] want to.
Really set boundaries around those things. Protect those things so that you can follow through on the things that the Lord is putting on your heart and not always just compromising your boundary. Yeah.
Geta: Yeah. Compromising your boundaries, trying to fit in. We're not, we're not, we weren't created to, to be in a mold,
Abbie: And I like that. That's what you're saying, prioritizing your self-care, especially the things that the Lord has put on your heart to do that is not prideful. And like you're saying, like that allows us to be set apart. Yes. And distinctly different. Yes. And there's a difference when somebody asks, oh, hey, why are you going to bed early?
Hey, why aren't you know, just coming out to dinner with us and not, you know, going out afterward. And it's like, Hey, I gotta, I gotta go to bed, the Lord. And that's actually an opportunity for you to give testimony. Hey, the Lord's really been putting out my heart that I gotta respect my bedtime. Or like, the Lord's really been pressing on my heart that I need to get up and have a stronger morning routine.. So I think that is self-respect and that's glorifying and honoring to the Lord, not pride. Yep. It can be a slippery slope, but when you're doing it all [00:28:00] for the glory of God and you know that's something that the Lord has told you to do and is inviting you into, then I don't think that that's pride.
Geta: 100%. 100% right? Yeah. And then anxiety about tomorrow.
Matthew 6 34, do not worry about tomorrow. And it says . In multiple ways,, throughout the gospel of Matthew and Mark, that do not worry about tomorrow. And one of my favorite absolute, one of my favorite verses is that he already knows every single piece of hair on, on our scalp.
I think about that. And in Romanian we have a similar saying, but I didn't know that it was a biblical verse until Oh, wow. I, yeah, yeah. Until I opened up the Bible. So like, yay. But I think this is where we as a whole and as a society the do not worry, Tamara, I take it as this, I take it as this Abby.
Now you can obviously spin it and, and see it in the vision, in the eyes that God wants you to see. This is how I see, is that we are completely obsessing over aging [00:29:00] fertility windows. I think it's almost obnoxious. Like how many, how many women do we see? How many parents do we see that they became parents at a very old age and they had infertility their entire lives.
Right. I've seen it with my own eyes. I was told I was gonna be infertile and I was like, oh my gosh. And then we did have a hard time. We did have a hard time the first time, and then I was like, okay, we need to calm down and not make this such a like. Boom, boom, boom. This is my only fertility window.
Literally, that was my mind, because I was afraid. And so I was like, yeah, we can't worry about it. If it's meant to be it. It will be no matter how hard I try or don't try, it will be too healthy.
The kids now. Yes. Yes. Right. So that's that. And then chasing,, mysticism without truth Colossians two, eight. See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit. I think in the wellness trend, we're also seeing a lot of [00:30:00] manifestation, energy cleanses, the universe is healing crystals, you know, things like that.
I will have, you know, Abby, one of the reasons why I actually put it in my bio on Instagram, Instagram is I use Instagram and Facebook. I don't use TikTok. But one of, I had, I literally had to put in my bio because I didn't think it was. I thought it was pretty obvious. If I'm posting about God and if I'm talking about Jesus, I thought it'd be pretty obvious that I'm not into reiki, that I'm not into manifestation.
I thought it'd be obvious, but No,
Abbie: Interesting.
Geta: Yeah, so I had to put in my bio and I still have to remind people like, by the way. By the way, that's
Abbie: not what we're talking about. Yeah. We're not
Geta: talking about that. We're not lukewarm here. Um, gluttony of knowledge in, okay, you're gonna have to say this because I cannot pronounce this correctly.
I, oh, Ecclesiastes. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. 1212 of making many books. There is no end in much study. [00:31:00] Wearies the body. Mm-hmm. Binge learning courses, podcasts, protocols, but never applying consistent, simple rhythms. Again, this is not saying don't listen to the podcast or don't, whatever. Just listen to this podcast.
Thank you. Yeah. But please listen to this one because again, this is about the things that, okay, hey, this is actually really this is for you. This is for you, this is right. And again, using discernment. Absolutely. One of the things that I think we see, especially in the chronic illness is that a lot of people want to, the, the issue is never not doing enough.
Because there's it's almost like overdoing, but I always say we are overworked and undernourished in every way.
Abbie: Yeah. So
Geta: pick the things that you are nourishing yourself. Pick the shows that actually nourish you. You don't have to watch you. Why? Why do we need to know? You know, whatever, whatever wellness influencer, if she's on GLP one or not, right?
Abbie: And I think that [00:32:00] that need for so much knowledge and all the courses and things like that is just putting an over-reliance. On that need to know, and that can lead to a lack of faith. Yes. I'm not saying to be totally uninformed, we need a healthy amount of information that you're making informed decisions.
Geta: Like we want informed consent, not just like cherry pick. But I think informed consent is like when you go to the pediatrician, when you go to the doctor and you're like, Hey, you know, I saw this commercial, or I saw this thing, and I'm thinking of trying it, this is what happens with my clients,
and the doctor says, oh yeah, well, it's good for, you know. We'll talk about Skyrizi because lately Skyrizi in my practice is very popular right now 'cause it's an immune suppressant. Okay, I heard of that. Yeah. Yeah. And so Skyrizi is an immunosuppressant, and it's typically used for IBS, sibo, uc, Crohn's, , things of this nature.
And so there's people that are asking about skyrizi and people are getting like [00:33:00] accepted or like they want the skyrizi or the doctor says yes. They meet the criteria
Abbie: mm-hmm.
Geta: Not ideal to be on an immune suppressant for a long time. And one of the things that keeps coming up about Skyrizi is that we ask about this, but they don't actually get told they physically, their, the doctors, their PCP, their GI specialists, physically with their mouth. They don't say it's a immune suppressor.
Mm-hmm. And then I go to explain, the mechanism. So then my client's gonna have that self-advocacy and they're like. Are we talking about the same thing? And I'm like, you're talking about skyrizi. Right. You know, and so, yeah.
And so that, that's the thing is like, I think we need to, information.
Abbie: Yeah. Informed consent. I see that with birth control. Yeah. That people are, they're not told about all of the risk. With that, that I can lead to so many, you know, higher risk of anxiety and depression and higher risks of, um, that was me deficiencies and [00:34:00] malabsorption.
There's so many things that can happen with breast blood clots, but. Um, also with GLP ones, I also see, I'm like you with that, the skyrizi medication. That's me with GLP ones. And I'll start talking to patients about, mm-hmm. Okay. I talked to my doctor, they're recommending it. What do you think is my dietician?
And so I go through the pros and cons and the rest, they're like, wait, that was never explained to me.
Geta: That was never explained.
Abbie: That's crazy. These are basic things. This is a life altering, gi altering,
Geta: literally injection. Literally life altering, body altering. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Abbie: , You know that you've struck the right amount of knowledge. If it's leading to fruit of the spirit, I really do believe that. Ooh, um, or, you know, yes, it's the wrong amount if it's not leading to the fruits of the spirit. If you, if it's leading you to isolate more and have more anxiety and more fear.
Something is off there. You're either consuming the wrong source, putting your trust in the wrong source, or consuming too much information. Even with like watching the news. Yep. Watching too [00:35:00] much. Yes. You wanna be informed about what's going on in the world 100%, but then we need to take that into the prayer with the Lord and give that back to God and not, oh, that was so good.
Yes. Rippled by fear.
Geta: Yes. Mm-hmm. Yes. Oh, that was so good. The last one is Neglecting True Rest. Exodus, chapter 20 verses eight to 10. Basically keep the Sabbath holy, in the post I said the wellness trend that's happening is that households disguised as self-op optimization where cold plunges at 5:00 AM nonstop health stacking, but no rest, no stillness, no trust, right? And I 100% see that 100% my practice unfortunately. I ask myself often, what came first, the chicken or the egg?
Does my person actually have chronic illness because they've tried so many things that are not for their body? Do they do the cold plunges when they're in fight and flight and they can't absorb their nutrients in their [00:36:00] minerals? And I ask myself this, because you see these, the, the lab results, you see the HTMA, HT MA is the lab that, that I use that it's a functional medicine lab.
It's very helpful. And I see these minerals, I see the toxic metals. I see these things. And that lab helps us see three to six months before. Uh, a blood lab is even gonna catch it if it catches it, right? And so I think about these things and I'm like, yeah, we can't be doing cold plunges anymore. We can't be doing, the biohacks, we can't be doing that.
And they're like, yeah, but like, it's healthy, right? But not for you.
Abbie: Not for you. Yes. It's not that it's bad, like everything is permissible. One Corinthians 10 23, but not everything is beneficial. And also maybe not in that season. Like if they have a chronic illness, their uh, maybe their immune system is shot, their nervous system is not regulated.
They cannot handle those high stressors.
Geta: Yep. Mm-hmm. [00:37:00] Yep. And cold plunges. Cold plunges. I did a podcast episode about it. Unlike these biohacks and cold plunges, probably the worst thing you can do for chronic illness. You know, and people went crazy.
Abbie: Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure. Yeah. So I think we need more of the simple things.
And it's hard because those things don't sell. They're not sexy, they're not flashy. Yeah. It's like get adequate sleep. Unplug from your phone, be still and no. Right. Stillness, silent, solitude, Sabbath, those spiritual disciplines. Yep. Meditating on a Psalm, right? We don't always need to know. A big, crazy Bible started like doing the most.
Sometimes you just need to meditate on a Psalm, right? Yeah, absolutely. You know? So I just think now that we need to do less, but go back to the simple things that can work as foundations, and then if the Lord invites you to do any of those extra things. Like always pray on it. He will lead you. He is our holy healer and our great physician.
He is Rafa. And if [00:38:00] you're not consulting him and filtering everything that other people suggest through the spirit, you will be led astray because there are wolfs and sheeps clothing. Yes. And we do have I see this a lot with my clients. It has to do with, proverbs 1618 pride comes before destruction.
Geta: Everyone's
Abbie: trying to nail their macros and do things right, and do everything in their own strength and to have a little bit of control. And so it's not always the wellness gurus that are leading us astray. It's sometimes it's our own pride and our own need to know us.
Yeah.
Geta: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And oh my gosh, that's one of the hardest things is to let go of the control,
Abbie: and there's freedom on the other side of that. Yeah. And surrendering to God does not mean that you just let yourself go and you have no discipline or anything like that.
There's work involved, you wanna take action on what the Lord is putting on your heart. The Lord loves a diligent worker. Yeah, and there's self [00:39:00] control as a fruit of the spirit. So we started with Galatians five talking about what's when we're the acts of the flesh, but the fruit of the spirit is love, joy, peace.
Forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self control. Yeah. So you will have that when you're walking with God in the Spirit. It will be a natural byproduct.
Geta: Yep. Absolutely. That's the fruit
Abbie: That is that, that is the fruit. Praise God. Those are
Geta: the fruits.
Abbie: Aw, awesome gentlemen.
Well, thank you so much for, you know, just sharing your wisdom and talking about all those wellness trends in scripture that speaks to those, just so that we can renew our mind and not get so caught up in the world. Because I do find that a lot of these wellness trends, diet, culture, it seeps into the church and Christians are very easily.
Deceived. So I appreciate you helping us to renew our mind and praise God for everything that Thank you.
Geta: Thank you. And thank you for seeing me as me and for having me on your podcast
Abbie: yay. Awesome. Jetta, thank you so much. [00:40:00] Where can people find you? And if you're promoting anything right now . Yeah.
Geta: So, , on Instagram at Jettas Digest, G-E-T-A-S Digest.
And on Facebook I do have a private Facebook group and there, trainings and there's. Little bits and pieces of content that sometimes on Instagram I do not post on there. And one of the things that we are gearing up for, is actually
signups for Jetta in your pocket? It's exactly what it sounds like. It's me in your pocket. We do the HTMA lab. When you do sign up for six months, I do pay for your lab. I actually call it the EU bonus. We will be closing Jet in your pocket for 2025 in October. So whenever this airs, you guys will be the last the last crew of 2025, and then we'll see what happens in 2026.
So yeah. A way to contact me is either through Facebook or Instagram or email, and I'll drop that all in, in the show notes [00:41:00] with Abby.
Abbie: Mm-hmm.
Geta: Awesome.
Abbie: Yay. Well, thank you so much, Jenna. I appreciate you.
Geta: Yeah, thank you. This has been awesome.
